Just another damn group blog!
I’m going to post something here that I stumbled across while cleaning stuff off my poor, beleaguered hard drive. It’s part of an interview given online by a rather new, more idealistic than wise writer, almost five long years ago.
But I’m sure she’s learned to be more discreet since then. :wtfno:
When asked whether she had any peeves about publishing, she launched into the following rant about a contest she’d entered:
“…I know another editor who sponsored a national contest. (I entered). There were about 20 semi-finalists. (I was one of ‘em). After delay after delay, several weeks beyond when the winners were supposed to be announced, this editor finally posted the three winning contestants. She then proceeded to give a mass, public, on-line rejection to the other seventeen, which amounted to, “sorry, not interested—and no time for personal remarks, I’m busy, have a good day,” even though each semi-finalist was promised commentary on their manuscript. Need I say more?”
Well no, that was quite enough, lol.
But the point stands.
Writing contests have probably been popular since people began sketching bison on the walls of caves. They probably always will be.
I’ve entered a few. I’ve found some of them to be positive in certain ways. But personally, I can’t say I’ve found them to be very professionally productive.
They’re all, naturally, subjective. Some of them amount to little more than popularity contests. And there are the ones with tokens for prizes, titles, small amounts of cash, opportunities to be read by those in important positions (if they follow through).
I suppose it all depends on what you’re looking for going in. Some are great for putting your presence and voice out there, or getting valuable feedback, or yes, possibly even being “discovered”.
But in the end, are they all pretty much a waste of time? Have you ever judged them? Why? Would you recommend them for writers just starting out? Have you had any positive or negative experiences with them yourself?

Bernita
February 5th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Think I entered a couple of first-line contests and Jason’s flash fiction thingy, but generally I do think they are a waste of time. Not even a particularly relevant credit if one wins.
Lynn
February 5th, 2010 at 8:57 am
To me writing contests are usually like elementary school bake sales: it doesn’t matter what it actually tastes like, everyone wants the prettiest cupcake. As long as it’s made by a really nice mom. And it has lots of sprinkles on top.
It’s natural for humans to be competitive, and I think I understand the need for the kind of validation that comes with winning contests (as a general rule writers have lousy self-esteem.) But aside from the questionable qualities of the honors involved, I think they do more harm than good. Many are biased and riddled with agendas that have nothing to do with quality of the work being judged.
I’ve witnessed in person what happens to the losers when they find out they haven’t won, and it’s not pretty. It demolishes them. The winners, well, let’s just say that any writing award you can campaign for is about how much backside you can kiss, not how well you can write.
Unless your career is more about you than the work, you don’t need to do this to yourself.
Charlene Teglia
February 5th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Early advice I was given: don’t seek opinions from anybody not in a position to buy your work. Contests largely do not meet that criteria, and for the new writer who really needs feedback, a serious writer’s workshop is probably better use of time and money. Invest in Clarion, it’ll be worth far more than a bunch of contest entries.
Charlene Teglia
February 5th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Forgot to mention Viable Paradise (held on Martha’s Vineyard), also some serious bang for your writing workshop buck.
BernardL
February 5th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
If as a writer you consider entering a contest as strictly a writing exercise, it’s not a waste of time. If you enter a contest believing it to be a legitimate measure of your writing talent then it’s dangerous.
Raine
February 5th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
(as a general rule writers have lousy self-esteem.)
Um–amen.
The winners, well, let’s just say that any writing award you can campaign for is about how much backside you can kiss, not how well you can write.
We do tend to get this impression, especially with online contests. More than one are simply a matter of how many friends, members of your family, or yes–the coveted :kissmyass:
Unless your career is more about you than the work, you don’t need to do this to yourself.
I can only think of one person I know who did manage to jumpstart their career with a contest. As it turned out, a career in that genre was probably not what they wanted after all. Would they have discovered it sooner by going a more traditional, agonizing route? Hmm.
And I always thought of it as reaching for one of those gold rings on a fast-moving carousel. Getting an “in” in the business seems so hard, and a contest puts forth a nice shiny, doesn’t it?
Raine
February 5th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Think I entered a couple of first-line contests and Jason’s flash fiction thingy, but generally I do think they are a waste of time.
Bernita, I enjoy entering Jason’s contest because I think it helps me sharpen my skills. I love the challenge of it.
Same with the first-line contests.
And I’ve gotta be honest (no, still haven’t learned any better)…
After finaling in one of the first-line contests and having the “prize editor” refuse to follow through (yes, again, but please, all, remember this is just my experience)—I’d say it’s great for honing your craft, but…
Raine
February 5th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
…don’t seek opinions from anybody not in a position to buy your work.
That sounds pretty good, Charli!
And I would agree about the workshops, IF you can afford them. Putting yourself deeper in the hole in this economy is something to think about.
And a writer’s workshop on Martha’s Vineyard DOES sound like a little slice of Paradise!
Raine
February 5th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
If you enter a contest believing it to be a legitimate measure of your writing talent then it’s dangerous.
Dangerous would be an apt word, Bernard.
The business can be so discouraging as it is, and we do forget about the subjectivity, especially in the heat of competition.
Melissa Blue
February 5th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
I entered three contests in five years. The EPPIE and twice with Karen Tabke’s first line contest. I learned a lot from Karen’s contest. Treat every line like it’s the last one the editor/agent will read.
I’ve also judged a contest and man was it brutal. It turned into giving mini-critiques. But the silver lining is that out of the 6 I received one submission that I loved. I gave her a 90 score, some pointers on what didn’t work (nitpicks really) and told her she needed to stop entering contest and start submitting. Surprisingly she sent me a thank you note saying the story ended up being contracted.
I learned two things from judging, newbies make all the same mistakes and I’ll never become an agent or editor. (Though it was really nice getting a thank you note.)
Overall contests aren’t a complete wash, but if it’s not something you need or will be beneficial put your money elsewhere.
Raine
February 5th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
I learned a lot from Karen’s contest. Treat every line like it’s the last one the editor/agent will read.
Now, THAT’S what that contest is good for.
…and told her she needed to stop entering contest and start submitting. Surprisingly she sent me a thank you note saying the story ended up being contracted.
From a contest judge–love it.
And I don’t think it’s surprising at all that she sent you a thank-you note.
Tanya
February 5th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Ex-contest ho speaking here….
They have their upsides, and their downsides.
Up is when you enter with a goal in mind. Your dream editor/agent is a final judge and you want to get your work in front of them.
Up is when you don’t particularly enter to final. You just enter to get a consensus of opinion from complete strangers who don’t feel compelled to make up a bunch of positive hooey about your writing.
Up is when you are looking for something to put in a query letter, a well-respected contest where the competition is fierce (Like The Emily, American Title, The Golden Pen, The Orange Rose, The Maggie, The Golden Heart, The Molly … etc). Or, if published (The Rita, The Maggie, Daphne du Maurier, Reader’s Choice Awards etc….)
Down is when you spend the vast majority of your writing time polishing the first chapter (or first three chapters) of a book you’ll probably never finish because you’ve got contestitis. It’s a disease that compels you to polish, polish, polish the first 25 to 55 pages. And then you have nothing else. Just your shiny opening pages that eventually get requested, but you ignore the request because you don’t have anything else to send.
Down is when you DO finish, but you’re still stuck on those first three chapters, which you continue to enter in contest after contest. Meanwhile the rest of your story reads like a Fun With Dick and Jane book.
Down is when you DO finish a book and continue to enter it in contests over and over again, making changes, editing all over the place because of your MANY judge’s varied opinions, until you don’t even recognize your story or your voice anymore.
Down is when you DO finish a book and continue to enter it in contests over and over again, making changes, editing all over the place and yet you fail to grow because you’re stuck in that particular book. You don’t write anything new. You’re a one-hit wonder and you seriously begin to doubt you have another book in you. THIS book will probably be your one and only.
In closing, contests are by no means a waste of time for ALL, but for SOME, yeah. They’re a big time waster.
The exception is if you know what you’re doing, you’re consistently writing OTHER STUFF, and you have a goal in mind. If such is the case, then contesting is the way to go. But if you’re contest addicted (no new stories, no growth in talent or craft because you’re stuck rewriting the same book) then you’re destined for mediocrity.
When I was entering contests (after I got serious about my writing) I entered because I wanted something—a particular editor or an agent. I didn’t just enter for the hell of it. I definitely had a goal in mind.
As for judging, I’m starting to realize I don’t have as much patience as I used to, especially when RWA’s brilliant computer assigns me my least favorite category. To be honest, I would rather have root canal. :tysm:
No, don’t ask, ’cause I’m not telling.
Sorry for the dissertation….
Raine
February 5th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Wow, Tanya—you’ve ridden that carousel, haven’t you?
When I was entering contests (after I got serious about my writing) I entered because I wanted something—a particular editor or an agent. I didn’t just enter for the hell of it. I definitely had a goal in mind.
And that would be the best reason to enter any of them, I think (and don’t pin all your hopes to even that). If they don’t help your writing or advance your career…?
BernardL
February 6th, 2010 at 10:35 am
“Down is when you DO finish, but you’re still stuck on those first three chapters, which you continue to enter in contest after contest. Meanwhile the rest of your story reads like a Fun With Dick and Jane book.” LOL!
Dennie ~
February 8th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Late to the party as usual.
I judge several contests a year–Having been a contest coordinator and having to beg for judges, I know how hard it is
to find peeps to read stuff
For the entrants, I think sometimes for them entering gets their work in front of someone other than their mom (who either loves or hates every single thing) or crit partner (who may know the writer so well they infer stuff that’s not there or can hear their voice and it skews it–not to say they’re not objective, but it’s the same reason *why* we have the crit partners, so we’re not missing something we *know* should be there but left out.
Does it help the writer–I’d guess it must or we wouldn’t see so many contests and so, so, SO many entrants year after year. BUT if you can’t take that rejection you won’t be able to take the editor and agent nos when it matters
Did it help me when I entered–eh, I wrote it off my taxes those years.