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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
		<link>http://southernfriedchicas.com/2009/11/04/re-use-renew-recycle/comment-page-1/#comment-12080</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try--I mean, REALLY try--to create different characters, especially heroes.  Writing the same guy over and over again gets boring.  My heroine&#039;s on the other hand are more challenging.  I don&#039;t know why it&#039;s easier for me to create different men.  Maybe there&#039;s something Freudian in that.  Who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try&#8211;I mean, REALLY try&#8211;to create different characters, especially heroes.  Writing the same guy over and over again gets boring.  My heroine&#8217;s on the other hand are more challenging.  I don&#8217;t know why it&#8217;s easier for me to create different men.  Maybe there&#8217;s something Freudian in that.  Who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Blue</title>
		<link>http://southernfriedchicas.com/2009/11/04/re-use-renew-recycle/comment-page-1/#comment-12079</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I see, which is why I agree with Charlene. Refilling that well can  spread your writing style and how you approach scenes and craft characters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I see, which is why I agree with Charlene. Refilling that well can  spread your writing style and how you approach scenes and craft characters.</p>
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		<title>By: vanessa jaye</title>
		<link>http://southernfriedchicas.com/2009/11/04/re-use-renew-recycle/comment-page-1/#comment-12078</link>
		<dc:creator>vanessa jaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re themes: I was referring to this bit - 

&lt;i&gt;On some level I do know most sex scenes are about the woman being dominated i.e. letting the woman in that vulnerable position allow herself to be feminine.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re themes: I was referring to this bit &#8211; </p>
<p><i>On some level I do know most sex scenes are about the woman being dominated i.e. letting the woman in that vulnerable position allow herself to be feminine.</i></p>
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		<title>By: vanessa jaye</title>
		<link>http://southernfriedchicas.com/2009/11/04/re-use-renew-recycle/comment-page-1/#comment-12077</link>
		<dc:creator>vanessa jaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; donâ€™t think Iâ€™ve ever lifted verbatim, but I have taken the gist of a scene, a conflict and used it elsewhere.&lt;/i&gt;

I start with verbatim (literally copy and paste the delted bit into the current wip) and end up with the gist. If that. :-P

&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

But you&#039;re talking &#039;theme&#039; here.  For some writers, their whole body of work repeats/explores certain themes.  But there&#039;s a problem if your readers now that the first kiss will happen on Xpage and it be &#039;the hero steals a kiss/touches heroine&#039;s breast, then she slaps him scene&#039;.  That&#039;s a little too cookie cutter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> donâ€™t think Iâ€™ve ever lifted verbatim, but I have taken the gist of a scene, a conflict and used it elsewhere.</i></p>
<p>I start with verbatim (literally copy and paste the delted bit into the current wip) and end up with the gist. If that. <img src='http://southernfriedchicas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i></i></p>
<p>But you&#8217;re talking &#8216;theme&#8217; here.  For some writers, their whole body of work repeats/explores certain themes.  But there&#8217;s a problem if your readers now that the first kiss will happen on Xpage and it be &#8216;the hero steals a kiss/touches heroine&#8217;s breast, then she slaps him scene&#8217;.  That&#8217;s a little too cookie cutter.</p>
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		<title>By: vanessa jaye</title>
		<link>http://southernfriedchicas.com/2009/11/04/re-use-renew-recycle/comment-page-1/#comment-12076</link>
		<dc:creator>vanessa jaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But I canâ€™t consciously think of any time Iâ€™ve shifted a snippet from one work to another. Not that I NEVER have, I just canâ€™t think of a time&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s not something I do so deliberately in &quot;current&quot; time(because I only work on one manuscript at a time). But I have been in the middle of writing one story, stopped to think about what I want to happen next in the story and I&#039;ll remember a deleted scene from another book that might work. Now that I think about it, it doesn&#039;t happen much with dialogue. Dialogue tends to be shifted within the same mss. I&#039;ll cut it, the figure that it&#039;d be perfect in another scene in the same book. 

&lt;i&gt;thereâ€™s only so many ways to describe someone. Or better, a pair of jeans and a t-shirt&lt;/i&gt;

Especially if there&#039;s an article of clothing you find particularly appealing/sexy/comfortable. Chances are all your h/H will show up some version of that outfit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But I canâ€™t consciously think of any time Iâ€™ve shifted a snippet from one work to another. Not that I NEVER have, I just canâ€™t think of a time</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not something I do so deliberately in &#8220;current&#8221; time(because I only work on one manuscript at a time). But I have been in the middle of writing one story, stopped to think about what I want to happen next in the story and I&#8217;ll remember a deleted scene from another book that might work. Now that I think about it, it doesn&#8217;t happen much with dialogue. Dialogue tends to be shifted within the same mss. I&#8217;ll cut it, the figure that it&#8217;d be perfect in another scene in the same book. </p>
<p><i>thereâ€™s only so many ways to describe someone. Or better, a pair of jeans and a t-shirt</i></p>
<p>Especially if there&#8217;s an article of clothing you find particularly appealing/sexy/comfortable. Chances are all your h/H will show up some version of that outfit.</p>
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		<title>By: cece</title>
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		<dc:creator>cece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the &quot;Jumping off point&quot; angle, no it&#039;s not #recyclefail!

I don&#039;t usually recycle stuff like what someone&#039;s wearing but if a thought or bit of narrative feels important, I DO save it.  It can&#039;t hurt. But I can&#039;t consciously think of any time I&#039;ve shifted a snippet from one work to another. Not that I NEVER have, I just can&#039;t think of a time.  LOL 

LOL@Doppleganger.  You know, there&#039;s only so many ways to describe someone.  Or better, a pair of jeans and a t-shirt  :sup:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the &#8220;Jumping off point&#8221; angle, no it&#8217;s not #recyclefail!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t usually recycle stuff like what someone&#8217;s wearing but if a thought or bit of narrative feels important, I DO save it.  It can&#8217;t hurt. But I can&#8217;t consciously think of any time I&#8217;ve shifted a snippet from one work to another. Not that I NEVER have, I just can&#8217;t think of a time.  LOL </p>
<p>LOL@Doppleganger.  You know, there&#8217;s only so many ways to describe someone.  Or better, a pair of jeans and a t-shirt  <img src='http://southernfriedchicas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/sup.gif' alt=':sup:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve mined for gold from WIPS that will never see the light of day. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever lifted verbatim, but I have taken the gist of a scene, a conflict and used it elsewhere. On some level I do know most sex scenes are about the woman being dominated i.e. letting the woman in that vulnerable position allow herself to be feminine. But I think that speaks more to the theme I&#039;m drawn to with my heroines--I have to control everything. I don&#039;t want to be weak. A big difference between weak and vulnerable. 

Oh, and the repeating myself thing--one of my fears as a writer. Just like I attack adverbs, words I repeat, I go after lines or character quirks I&#039;ve used before.

Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve mined for gold from WIPS that will never see the light of day. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever lifted verbatim, but I have taken the gist of a scene, a conflict and used it elsewhere. On some level I do know most sex scenes are about the woman being dominated i.e. letting the woman in that vulnerable position allow herself to be feminine. But I think that speaks more to the theme I&#8217;m drawn to with my heroines&#8211;I have to control everything. I don&#8217;t want to be weak. A big difference between weak and vulnerable. </p>
<p>Oh, and the repeating myself thing&#8211;one of my fears as a writer. Just like I attack adverbs, words I repeat, I go after lines or character quirks I&#8217;ve used before.</p>
<p>Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: vanessa jaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>vanessa jaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I pick â€œideasâ€ from the non-pubbed stuff I have. I donâ€™t know that I have copied a scene straight outâ€“not for lack of trying, but usually itâ€™s not quite the right fit, so I paraphrase until it fits (and then will have to re-do that book if I ever get around to finishing it). &lt;/i&gt;

Exactly. 


I just threw the lovescene example out there because there&#039;d been some chatter about a month ago on another site/forum about an author (I don&#039;t read) where every single scene in every book pretty much went the same way/same acts/same order of acts/same reactions. I think peeps even knew page numbers. lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I pick â€œideasâ€ from the non-pubbed stuff I have. I donâ€™t know that I have copied a scene straight outâ€“not for lack of trying, but usually itâ€™s not quite the right fit, so I paraphrase until it fits (and then will have to re-do that book if I ever get around to finishing it). </i></p>
<p>Exactly. </p>
<p>I just threw the lovescene example out there because there&#8217;d been some chatter about a month ago on another site/forum about an author (I don&#8217;t read) where every single scene in every book pretty much went the same way/same acts/same order of acts/same reactions. I think peeps even knew page numbers. lol.</p>
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		<title>By: vanessa jaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>vanessa jaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlene! You commented! 

I thought I&#039;d picked a real stinker of a topic.  :poke: 

Or I really was the only one doing both of those things.  :shock: 

I think I have better luck using deleted characters/ideas in something new, than I do scenes/dialogue. It always works out that after editing the hell out of the dialogue/scene to make it fit the new story (and to bring it up to my current writing level), there&#039;s precious little of the original left.  

Although, if I used that scene/dialogue as a jumping off point, I can see the possibilities there.

On the repeats:  Definitely keep yourself open to new stimulations re reading other media/entertainment, life experiences. I think i do that right now. so not sure what causes the doppleganger descriptions.  Maybe I&#039;m reading too much into it? It tends to be a couple of throw away lines, but it still kinda freaks me out, especially because I never see it right away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlene! You commented! </p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d picked a real stinker of a topic.  <img src='http://southernfriedchicas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/poke.gif' alt=':poke:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Or I really was the only one doing both of those things.  <img src='http://southernfriedchicas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I think I have better luck using deleted characters/ideas in something new, than I do scenes/dialogue. It always works out that after editing the hell out of the dialogue/scene to make it fit the new story (and to bring it up to my current writing level), there&#8217;s precious little of the original left.  </p>
<p>Although, if I used that scene/dialogue as a jumping off point, I can see the possibilities there.</p>
<p>On the repeats:  Definitely keep yourself open to new stimulations re reading other media/entertainment, life experiences. I think i do that right now. so not sure what causes the doppleganger descriptions.  Maybe I&#8217;m reading too much into it? It tends to be a couple of throw away lines, but it still kinda freaks me out, especially because I never see it right away.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennie ~</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennie ~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pick &quot;ideas&quot; from the non-pubbed stuff I have. I don&#039;t know that I have copied a scene straight out--not for lack of trying, but usually it&#039;s not quite the right fit, so I paraphrase until it fits (and then will have to re-do that book if I ever get around to finishing it). 

I hope my sex scenes aren&#039;t so cookie cutter from one book to the next, but I don&#039;t know--in my mind they&#039;re different folks so the vibe is different which (to me) makes the scene different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pick &#8220;ideas&#8221; from the non-pubbed stuff I have. I don&#8217;t know that I have copied a scene straight out&#8211;not for lack of trying, but usually it&#8217;s not quite the right fit, so I paraphrase until it fits (and then will have to re-do that book if I ever get around to finishing it). </p>
<p>I hope my sex scenes aren&#8217;t so cookie cutter from one book to the next, but I don&#8217;t know&#8211;in my mind they&#8217;re different folks so the vibe is different which (to me) makes the scene different.</p>
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