September 16, 2008
Prove it
I have written many a WIP. Most in various stages of not finished. (If I mentioned there is almost 30 of them would you throw something at me? I have writer’s ADD, what can I say. Anyhoo . . . .) Or I have great ideas for books and I will write down a line or two just to help me remember whenever I can sit my arse down and work on it. Inevitably though, I will read something, or worse, watch Lifetime and wham bam, I’ll be damned, it’s my idea.
I know there is really no such thing as an original idea anymore. Sure you can come up with a creative way to tell it, to interpret it, but truth be told it’s ALL been done before. My grievance however is the copycat effect.


I have written two-thirds of a WIP that I had read to a crit group, got so-so feedback and put it aside because I really need to re-work a certain aspect–as far as book reading goes, not so much plotline. Four years later, I am watching a (2008–so brand spanking new) Lifetime movie and low and behold the plotline is so similar I am watching the credits to see if I know the name of the “writer”. (and let me just say, this was a VERY specific storyline that the simliarities will have me doing internet searchces for a while to ensure that it was in fact a mere coincedence.)
Hollywood does this all the time–Armageddon and Deep Impact both came out at the same time–though I suspect the coincedence of Hollywood is a little more of one studio hearing of the others plans and trying to one-up the other–anyone remember the 3 or 4 Fisher/Buttafuoco movies that came out the same week.
I have another WIP, again two-thirds complete only to read someone else’s book that is eerily similar and I think, “If I try and sell mine, they’ll say I copied her.” POP the book goes into hybernation or I want to run around shouting, “I swear I didn’t know she had written this book before me.” I suppose there is really no way to prove coincedence unless you go through some great lengths and have computers examined and whatnot to validate inception date–but who (other than myself) is that comletely obsessive about things?
It happens so often that other than some anal-retintive, will do anything to procrastinate writing gal like myself, people probably don’t give it a second thought. But it still freaky to me.



It’s the universe.And keep in mind that editors can’t buy books that aren’t finished (and by that I mean, ones that haven’t been submitted or that they haven’t been queried with!)
>>would you throw something at me?
Um Fuck Yeah!
that haven’t been submitted or that they haven’t been queried with
that is the hardest part for sure!
Um Fuck Yeah!
GULP!
Happens all the time, doesn’t it? I think we’ve had a couple of blog posts here about copycat issues…
I know I’ll sit there, feel my jaw drop as I say, “But…but that’s my story idea! It’s mine! I had it first!” (they don’t seem to listen).
Can’t tell you how many e-mails Ames has gotten to this effect.
I have some theories about why this happens (and I’m guilty of the not-following-through-with-stories sometimes too, have a few on the hard drive). But, um, yeah, you gotta submit.
I had this wonderful story idea 2-3 years ago. I lost the notebook. About this time last year I started to write that book. In January I had the book contracted. In Feb. my favorite author came out with a book very similiar to mine. I wasn’t freaked out until the scene where the heroine sees the mother the first time in years and then she says *paraphrased* “Aliens must have abducted my mother.”
Hand to Bible that’s what I said in my WIP. *head-to-desk* I just hope no thinks I stole from this woman.
Lets just break it down to “Great minds think alike”
>>that is the hardest part for sure!
I seem to remember you having some material requested at Nationals Last Year *cough* and never sending it.
And on that note……..if you don’t play, you can’t win. If you don’t play…..you also can’t bitch
Mel that sucks… but yes, great minds do think alike LOL (trust me…I did an indepth internet search on the movie. I am somewhat comfortable, that it WAS a hig coincedence)
Plus I think topical things will make a couple of people come up w/ stuff at the same time.
some material requested at Nationals Last Year
Yes, BUT… there is always a but LOL…
(I’m almost ready to send it actually)
you also can’t bitch Aboslutley correct!
I think it happens to all of us. And it sucks each and every time. What ya gonna do. Just keep your head down and write.
It makes me sick … SICK … when it happens. And it happens a lot. Can’t be controlled. It’s just the way stuff is. Damn it.
It seems everything is being copied nowadays in TV scripts. The writers not only blow things up at the same time, they blow the same things up, as in the SUV’s in the CSI’s and Criminal Minds. One crime show uses twins as surprise perpetrators, and suddenly every crime show on TV is a ‘Doublemint Twins’ commercial. :)
I’m as obsessive as you Dennie. I not only date my works, I also write a paragraph explaining where I came up with the idea and when.
explaining where I came up with the idea and when
OMG! ME TOO…
I have a strict CYA moto (and a mild case of paranoia)
And it happens a lot
I have mentioned before that a couple of years ago, I just happen to read these two particular books back to back. One author was a pretty big NY author. The other one was a little newer at that time. They had the same plotline basically (one was a fed one was an ex fed; they had been lovers; hadn’t seen each other in a while yadda, yadda) the most shocking part was both heroine’s name was Raine (but spelled different from one another). At the time, I had yet to meet Chica Raine ~ I found it shockingly weird with the similarities and a mere coincedence I had read them at the same time.
Just keep your head down and write.
Very, very good advice!
I just thought of something sorta along the lines of what Amie said: It’s not really a coincedence if I don’t actually turn in mine–then it’s just me whining. Okay it is exactly what Amie said . . . .
Somehow I totaly missed your post, Raine ~ sorry
I have some theories about why this happens
I’d be curious to know
feel my jaw drop
When I saw the lifetime movie, I sat up so fast I pulled something and looked all around the room trying to figure out if I need to call someone or something. I believe dinner was even late that day ’cause I had to finish watching–I gotta get over that damn movie!
I’d be curious to know
Oh dear God—it’d involve theories of quantum physics, metaphysics, possibly spirituality, etc., and it’s after 1:00 a.m.
Amie hit it pretty well–it’s the universe.
And another thought…if you sold a similar story now, it’d probably be 16-24 months or so before it saw publication, and very few people would remember the first one anyway.
bottom line: sell it

Oooooo I know who one of them was, Dennie LOL And she’s an auto-buy for me. Funny enough I just finished a book with a secondary character named Raine in it–but it was women’s fic
Seriously it IS the universe. I had an idea once. I told NO ONE and lo and behold about a year later saw almost the same exact idea–down to the promo!!