March 12, 2008
Behind The Book with Anne Frasier
Thanks so much for the invitation to hang out here today! I’ll begin by telling you a bit about myself. I’m a dark person. When I was born the nurse said, “This baby has a dark soul.” Well, I’m sure she at least thought it. ;)
I find foreboding in everything. Old buildings. New buildings. Bridges. An open field. A weedy pasture. A grove of trees. A quiet street. Anything and everything seems sinister to me. Small towns can be particularly secretive while at the same time seductive. On the surface they can look quaint and welcoming, but underneath they resent newcomers and change. Nature is the same way. Beautiful and inviting, but dangerous and secretive. I decided to tap into those personal anxieties while writing Pale Immortal and Garden of Darkness – books I think of as basically one long story that I call the Tuonela books.
The Tuonela books were influenced by Michael Lesy’s Wisconsin Death Trip, and also by the small river town of Burlington, Iowa, where I grew up. I’d wanted to use Burlington in a book for a long time, and when I visualize Tuonela in my mind, it always looks like Burlington. I can’t imagine it being set anywhere else. I think part of that is because Burlington calls to me in the strange way it calls to Rachel in the Tuonela books. Sometimes our connections to a place reach back generations and that creates an odd bond.
I’m a visual person, so I think movies have also influenced me in a big way: Night of the Living Dead and Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Nosferatu and a lot of the old black & white horror movies. Also Hitchcock. With Pale Immortal and Garden of Darkness, I wanted to take some of those horror/supernatural elements and combine them with a story that was basically character-driven, and a story that, in a weird way, had love at its foundation.
The core story is a story of abuse and abandonment, loss and regret. It’s about the love of a father for a child. The father just happens to have this strange disease. And he might be a vampire, living in a town that might not exist.
Evan Stroud is allergic to sunlight. His disease isolates him, and isolation is something most of us have dealt with in our lives. Evan is the ultimate outsider, yearning for answers he will never find and a life he can never have. And possibly a love he can never have.
Many of the main characters are trapped by circumstance – a recurring theme in Pale Immortal and Garden of Darkness. The weight of responsibility. Do you turn your back on the people you love in order to have a different life, the promise of a better life? This also mirrors the isolation, loss of identity, and sense of displacement that’s prevalent in society today.
Evan’s teenage son figures prominently in both books. I love writing teenagers. They are so naïve and cocky, innocent and volatile. They think they know everything and approach life that way. They can make you mad and break your heart all at the same time.
Rachel Burton, the town coroner, is forced to return to Tuonela. This ties into the responsibility theme. At first she returns because of an ill parent. Then she didn’t want to leave her father by himself. Then the town needed her. But of course deep down the town was calling to her. I’ve experienced this pull with my own hometown. Something is always calling me back, and I have to fight it because I don’t think it’s a good place for me. But it’s always there, and I sometimes wonder if I should just quit fighting and move back. I think many of us long for the roots and heritage of a quaint town and a life that doesn’t exist. And of course with Rachel we have to think that subconsciously she also returns because of Evan.
Speaking of Evan…. Is he human? That’s definitely the big question. Or is he just a victim of subliminal persuasion? Of myth and superstition? Of paranoia? Or is something more going on?
About the author’s note in Pale Immortal — I wanted people to wonder. I wanted them to get up, walk to the bookshelf, and pull out a map to see if they could find Tuonela. I wanted to take the story outside the book and into the reader’s own life. That has been a big part of this journey — adding layers outside the pages.
Since the release of Garden of Darkness, I’ve received a lot of emails and myspace messages from readers asking if I’m working on a third Tuonela book. I’m sorry to say that at this time there are no plans to write a third book although an outline and plot for book 3 does exist. I’m currently working on a creative nonfiction project that will probably be released in 2010. Taking a break from the nonfiction world might see me delving deeper into the horror genre. I also have a short story coming out in an anthology, but it’s too early to talk about that. So, lots going on, but not the kind of news Pale Immortal and Garden of Darkness readers want to hear. Sorry!
The weird twist to this whole thing is that I recently moved from the city to an abandoned village in Wisconsin. Writers are always asked about influence, but until now I’ve never really thought about how my books have influenced and informed my own life.
For more info on Anne Frasier and her books, have some fun and check out the following links:
Pale Immortal Blogspot
Kristin Blackmoore Blogspot
Anne Frasier (website)
Anne Frasier Blogspot
Anne Frasier MySpace




I think movies have also influenced me in a big way
I am the same way–but um, they’re always reminding me of musicals–cheesy ones–like Grease II (swear to god in hs, I imagined being at the mall and everyone breaking into a dance number
explains a lot huh?!?)
how my books have influenced and informed my own life
hmm, I have never thought about this before–for mine or others’ books…something to think on today!
Glad you could join us!
“Nature is the same way. Beautiful and inviting, but dangerous and secretive.” Love this statement.
I, also, never thought about how my stories have influenced my life (beyond writing makes me happy, not writing makes me depressed). It’s always the other way around, what bits and peices of myself have I served up on the platter on my fiction. But… good fiction always stays with you. Haunts you, because aspects of it causes you to think deeper and perhaps because you recognize the ‘truths’ written between the lines.
Again, great post Anne.
I hope folks take the time to check out the links you provided. Readers really get this type of booty re background material to accompany books.
Welcome, Anne!
Great post. Lots of themes in the writing—isolation, secrecy, the attraction of the imagined that may not be imaginary. I can see the Hitchcock influence taken in a different direction. He loved the idea of haunting or terrifying stories behind seemingly innocuous little towns.
An abandoned village in Wisconsin? Love it.
Thanks for joining us!
Thanks so much for the invitation and warm welcome!! I’m running around like crazy this morning, but I have my whole afternoon free and will be back!!!
I want to use all of these! haha! so cute!! I love this one:
I keep getting this page:
We are currently performing system maintenance. As such our site will be temporarily unavailable on
March 12, 2008
I can get here by going through the comment area, but not the main page. figures that I would choose a day for system maintenance.

I thought I was the only one having problems - I don’t that message, but I do keep getting a Windows/Explorer error message. I have to try several times before I can get on the site. Really sorry about this, Anne, but hopefully it’ll clear up in soon.
I’ll nudge Cece to see if she knows what’s up.
I’m clueless! I have no idea. lemme go try it in ie and see what happens.
*dashes off*
*dashes back in*
OK in ie It’ll load the site then we get the error report and it closes out. i’m going to TRY switching to a different design and see if maybe it’s a bug in this one.
PS in Firefox I get right in either via comments or directly!
oK..WE’RE going to assume it was a bug in the design or somesuch. Anyway ANNE OMG I can’t believe you’re here! I LURBS You. I LURBS Pale Immortal and the whole making of/story behind the story.
*goes to sit in corner until gushing stops*
*sigh*
I’m not getting the error message now…
Is it safe?
thanks, cece! sorry about the site headache!
dennie, that reminds me of one of my favorite buffy episodes.
raine, stephen king does that really well too. love how he takes the common and ordinary and makes it terrifying.
vanessa: smooches!
the previous design was gorgeous, so hopefully you can switch back when the wordpress gnomes are done tinkering around.
you have some beautiful covers over there ———>>>
Excellent post. I wonder if Michael Lesy’s book is where the band Static X came up with the name for one of their albums.
I may really have to seek treatment for my smiley addiction.
emma, oh, i’ll bet so! wisconsin death trip was first published in ‘73, then again in 2000.
Anne can you talk a bit more about your ‘creative non-fiction’ project? (lol. Love that title.) I’ve been intrigued by the bits you’ve mentioned previously on your blog. Is this a ‘fictionalized’ memoire/biography? The pics you take are always so haunting, they speak with volumes as it is, I hope this book gets picked up!
Anne wrote: “Small towns can be particularly secretive while at the same time seductive. On the surface they can look quaint and welcoming, but underneath they resent newcomers and change.”
That’s what I love about small towns too. There’s so many ways you can write them. Dark, light, semi-dark, bright and sunny. You can really bend and shape them the way you want. Overall, I like the secretive small town aspect better than anything.
Vanessa, the creative nonfiction is now officially a memoir. ack. that sounds so pretentious. and with all these fabricated memoirs being written, I have to be careful to stick to the facts. i just finished the first draft last week! woo-hoo! and man is it depressing. not sure something so depressing will sell, but we’ll see. if it doesn’t, i’ll revamp it as fiction. my agent read the first 50 pages and advised me to go with a memoir rather than truth disguised as fiction. and i have to say it’s very strange to be writing about living people. i’m not sure how i feel about it, and i imagine a lot of people are going to be pissed off if it does get published. i lived on a farm for 20 years and everybody around me was dropping dead from cancer, but nobody would admit it was from farm chemicals. that’s basically the story. Kind of a Silent Spring with attitude.
“i lived on a farm for 20 years and everybody around me was dropping dead from cancer, but nobody would admit it was from farm chemicals. “
I can’t even concieve this. I’ve lost two people close to me in the last 10yrs and I don’t think I’ve gotten over it. To go through the experience you’ve outlined, just mind boggling. It’s like something you’d watch on 20/20.
As for selling this, I think it’s guaranteed. The film rights will go before the book. This has shades of Erin Brokovitch/Silkwood.
thanks, vanessa. I wish I felt that confident about the project. just such a switch for me. and you are so right about erin brokovitch and silkwood. as i was working on the first draft i kept thinking it felt very much like silkwood.
and for something completely different:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080312/ap_on_re_us/woman_in_bathroom
Anne, first off– ARRrrrrgguggh. gross. How does skin *grow* around an object?
Secondly. Cool. You sooo have to write that into one of your books. lol.
Thank you again for dropping by and participating in our Behind The Book series. Loved, loved your post and all the links! I’ll be keeping my eyes peels for sightings of you on your own blog.
heh!
Thanks for having me!
>>I can’t even concieve this.
It does boggle the mind. Grishams latest deals with a cancer cluster from illegal dumping of toxic material. And Brokovitchis one of my fave movies!
And that news story was BIZARRE!!!!!!!!!!